Pope Francis addressed discrimination against the LGBT community, his own health and future plans, and the passing of Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, among other things, in a wide-ranging interview with The Associated Press published Wednesday.
We are all children of God, and God loves us as we are.” Francis reiterated, however, church teaching that engaging in homosexual activity is sinful.”It’s a sin,” Francis said, adding: “Let’s make the distinction first between sin and crime.” The pope also clarified that discriminating against others was also sinful, saying: “It’s also a sin to lack charity with one another.
Francis said the church “must” work to get unjust laws abolished around the world.
Same-sex sexual acts are considered crimes in some 67 countries, mostly in Africa and the Middle East, according to the Human Dignity Trust organization. In 11 of those countries, punishment can include the death penalty.
The Catholic Church teaching says that gay people must be welcomed into the church and treated with respect and kindness, despite the fact that homosexual acts are considered “intrinsically disordered.”
Pope Francis on Wednesday gave President Trump a copy of his 2015 encyclical letter on the environment and climate change. Trump responded to the gifts by saying: “Well, I’ll be reading them,” according to pool reports. The Trump administration has been pushing to roll back Obama-era regulations on the environment. At the beginning of the meeting, the president said it was a “great honor” to be meeting with the pope.
Trump gave the pope a boxed set of five first-edition books by late U.S. civil rights leader Martin Luther King.
As Trump and the pope said goodbye at the door of the study, Trump told him: “Thank you, thank you. I won’t forget what you said.
The “gay-friendly”, “not gay-firendly”, and then “gay-friendly” again Pope Francis is back to being a homophobic bigot today as he has voiced his support for the anti-gay marriage protest that took place yesterday in Mexico and the Mexican bishops in their efforts to support the “family and life” in the national debate over gay marriage.
“I join willingly the Bishops of Mexico in supporting the efforts of the Church and civil society in favor of the family and of life, which at this time require special pastoral and cultural attention worldwide,” Francis said after the weekly Angelus prayer.
On Saturday, the streets of Mexico City were covered in white, as an estimated 215,000 people dressed in this color and carrying balloons participated in a rally in opposition to President Enrique Pena Nieto’s push to legalize same-sex marriage.
The marchers held banners warning against same-sex marriage and demanding parents’ right to control sex education in schools.
In May, Pena Nieto proposed legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide, since it’s currently only legal in some places such as Mexico City, the northern state of Coahuila and Quintana Roo state on the Caribbean coast.
Although many Christian denominations supported the rally, organized by the National Front for the Family, the Catholic Church and the local bishops have been one of the movement’s biggest supporters, inviting people to attend this march and ones organized around the country earlier in September, when almost a million people gathered in parks to “defend the family.”
Among those calling for those in the pews to go to the rally was Bishop Pedro Pablo Elizondo of Cancun, who said recently that he’s “willing to go to prison to defend the family,” should it come to that. – The Associated Press
In Pope Francis’ religious psychotic world fucking an altar boy gets you reassigned and supporting two adults love for each other gets you excommunicated.
Because you know he is the gay friendly, kinder and gentler Pope.
Yesterday in Cuba Pope Francis and the head of the Russian Orthodox Church had the first meeting between the heads of their churches in over 1000 years. So naturally the first thing they did was issue a joint written denouncement of gay marriage.
The New York Times reports:
As he approached the Russian patriarch amid the clicking of news cameras, Francis was overheard to say, “Brother.” A moment later, he added, “Finally.” The two men embraced, kissing each other twice on the cheeks and clasping hands before taking seats. “Now things are easier,” Patriarch Kirill said. Francis responded, “It is clear now that this is the will of God.”
The meeting was richly symbolic: Francis, leader of the world’s 1.2 billion Roman Catholics, stood with Patriarch Kirill, leader of the largest church in the Eastern Orthodox world, with an estimated 150 million followers. But it was also about geopolitics, rivalries among Orthodox leaders and, analysts say, the maneuverings of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia — who is closely aligned with the conservative Russian church.
For Francis, the meeting was an ecumenical and diplomatic coup that eluded his predecessors but that also opened him to criticism that his embrace of the Russian patriarch would indirectly give a boost to Mr. Putin as he wages a war in Syria and continues to meddle in Ukraine.
The Vatican has published the full text of their joint statement HERE.
Here is the anti-gay portion:
The family is the natural centre of human life and society. We are concerned about the crisis in the family in many countries. Orthodox and Catholics share the same conception of the family, and are called to witness that it is a path of holiness, testifying to the faithfulness of the spouses in their mutual interaction, to their openness to the procreation and rearing of their children, to solidarity between the generations and to respect for the weakest.
The family is based on marriage, an act of freely given and faithful love between a man and a woman. It is love that seals their union and teaches them to accept one another as a gift. Marriage is a school of love and faithfulness. We regret that other forms of cohabitation have been placed on the same level as this union, while the concept, consecrated in the biblical tradition, of paternity and maternity as the distinct vocation of man and woman in marriage is being banished from the public conscience.
Very rich coming from the heads of two of the largest pedophilia rings in the world.
The Vatican confirmed on Wednesday that religious extremist anti-gay bigot Kentucky county clerk Kim Davis met with Pope Francis in secret last Thursday during his U.S. visit.
“I never thought I would meet the pope,” she said. “Who am I to have this rare opportunity? I am just a county clerk who loves Jesus and desires with all my heart to serve him. Pope Francis was kind, genuinely caring and very personable.”
Pope Francis was also two-faced, sneaky, and is now proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be anti-gay.
The Vatican specifically reached out to Davis through and contacted Mat Staver the head of the anti-gay hate group the Liberty Counsel which is representing Davis. And after setting up the secretl meeting and asked Staver and Davis to wait until the Pope left America to make any announcement of the meeting.
And despite all this offensiveness some Catholics are still trying to explain away the Pope’s hateful meeting.
Some are going as far as saying that the Pope himself was “set-up” by anti-gay Cardinals and Bishops in the Vatican. And others like Alberto Melloni, a liberal Vatican historian in Italy, are grasping at straws sating that in meeting with Ms. Davis, Francis was staking out ground as a defender of conscientious objection more than seeking to escalate his relatively muted opposition to same-sex marriage.
And well HRC is as lame as ever.
“We will continue to push to meet with the pope,” said Lisbeth Melendez Rivera, head of Latino and Catholic initiatives at Human Rights Campaign, which works for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender equality. “We are part and parcel of the church and we’re not going anywhere.”
And that is the problem and part of the problem You are not going anywhere.
Why in the world would any gay or lesbian individual stay a member of the Catholic Church and why do they crave the approval of of a religion that has hated homosexuals for thousands of years and refuses to change it dogma?
Perhaps if those who are truly offended by the actions of the Pope and the Catholic church actually left the religion it would force them to change .
Lesbian and Gay Catholics come to your senses. The church will not change. And now with the Pope showing his true colors its time for you to leave the Catholic church and find a more supportive and loving religion.
Its at the point that there is little difference between a Gay Catholic and a Gay Republic. They are both rich pompous anti-gay groups that would burn gays and lesbians at the stake (again) if given half the chance.
“The family is threatened by growing efforts on the part of some to redefine the very institution of marriage, by relativism, by the culture of the ephemeral, by a lack of openness to life,” the Pontiff told thousands at a Mass in Manila. “These realities are increasingly under attack from powerful forces, which threaten to disfigure God’s plan for creation.”
The 78-year old Argentinean also referred to the movement in many countries to accept same-sex marriage as an “ideological colonization that we have to be careful about that is trying to destroy the family.”
“Every threat to the family is a threat to society itself,” Francis also told the conservative Catholic nation. “The future of humanity, as Saint John Paul II often said, passes through the family.”
In his closing remarks Francis talked about how he was “very moved after the Mass today when I visited that shelter for children with no parents.”
Children that could possibly have more chance of being with a loving family if gay men and women could adopt in the Philippines and be married.
Monday began the Vatican’s three-day “Complementarity of Man and Woman” – Humanum conference included global faith leaders including t U.S. evangelical pastors Rick Warren and Russell Moore, former Chief Rabbi of the United Kingdom Jonathan Sacks and Anglican, Muslim, Pentecostal and Hindu leaders. In addition for the first time, a top Mormon leader – Henry Eyring – was also in official attendance at a Vatican conference.
But , what many major news outlets aren’t reporting is that anti-gay hate group leaders like Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council and Brian Brown and Maggie Gallagher were also invited and in attendance. And if that’s not enough to tip you off at how anti-gay this Vatican Confrence was set up to be even before it began Mark Regnerus of the infamously shoddy anti-gay parenting study that has been discredited and openly mocked every legal proceeding against anti-gay marriage was actually hired to film anti-gay videos that were shown at the Vatican conference that has been going on for the past three days!
The messages of Humanum have sounded mostly like excerpts from Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus, asserting various archaic gender stereotypes as evidence that men and women are uniquely designed to be together — and that no other relationship should ever be considered a marriage. For example, Russell Moore, media-savvy head of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, told the conference that spouses are not interchangeable. “We are not created as ‘spouse A’ and ‘spouse B,’” he insisted, “but as man and as woman, and in marriage as husband and as wife, in parenting as mother and as father.Masculinity and femininity are not aspects of the fallen order to be overcome, but are instead part of what God declared from the beginning to be ‘very good.’”
Even in his remarks opening the conference, Pope Francis alluded to the “unique” way that men and women define marriage when he prayed that the colloquium “will be an inspiration to all who seek to support and strengthen the union of man and woman in marriage as a unique, natural, fundamental and beautiful good for persons, communities, and whole societies.” [snip] The colloquium has been fairly lacking in substance, which was particularly evident when Pastor Rick Warren spoke. He spent the first few minutes of his remarks “not kidding” about how all of the points he originally intended to make had already been made by other speakers. Warren still found plenty to say, including the idea that the sexual revolution, including same-sex marriage, is merely “in style” and all styles go out of style.”Every lie eventually crumbles under its own deception,” he said, “but the Word of God and the Church of God continues.”
So there you have it. The new Pope is not any less anti-gay than the last Pope, perhaps even more so for inviting such an evil group of anti-gay bigots to the Vatican to discuss marriage.
If you are gay or a lesbian and still a practicing Catholic the question you must ask yourself is: Why? The outlook of the Catholic Church’s opinions and attitudes on gay and lesbians are never going to change. Why belong to and enable a religion that wants to harm you and your friends. Take a stand and make a point. Lever the Catholic Church, publicly denounce them. The loss of members and money is the only thing that will ever cause the Vatican to change on this issue.
Although he is not listed as a speaker, another prominent American opponent of LGBT equality will also be attending the conference. Family Research Council President Tony Perkins said in an interview on Newsmax TV today that he plans to attend the conference in Rome and expects the Catholic Church to “make a very clear statement that pertains to marriage and what the Church views marriage to be” to provide “clarity” to the confusion coming out of the recent synod.
“I don’t see the Catholic Church making a great deviation” on the issue of homosexuality, Perkins said. “They can’t because the scripture is quite clear on the issue.”
And as a special added bonus Tony will be broadcasting LIVE from the Vatican all week!
If there were any doubts that the Vatican conference officially named: “An International Interreligious Colloquium on The Complementarity of Man and Woman.” was anti-gay marriage. There are none now.
Why some gay men and women cling to Catholicism is beyond me.
When Francis was a bishop in Buenos Aires, Argentina, he received letters from gays and lesbians who said they were “socially wounded” by the church, he said. “But the church does not want to do this,” Francis said in the interview. The pope then recalled his comments in July, when he told the media aboard a flight to Rome, “Who am I to judge” gay people?” By saying this, I said what the catechism says,” the pope told Spadaro. The catechism, the Catholic Church’s book of official doctrine, condemns homosexual acts, but says gays and lesbians “must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity.”
“Religion has the right to express its opinion in the service of the people, but God in creation has set us free: it is not possible to interfere spiritually in the life of a person.” Francis said that someone once asked him if he “approved” of homosexuality. “I replied with another question,” he said. “`Tell me, when God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?’ We must always consider the person. Here we enter into the mystery of the human being.”
“We cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods,” he told his Jesuit interviewer. “I have not spoken much about these things, and I was reprimanded for that.” But the pope said the church’s teachings on those issue are clear, and he clearly believes in those teachings, so what else is there to say? “It is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time,” Francis said
Those explosions you are hearing are Bill Donohue from the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights and Brian Brown of the National Organization for Marriage’s heads exploding.
Pope Francis on Monday in a shocking turnaround from past papal leaders denied the existence of a “gay lobby” at the Vatican Francis saying that he had investigated the reports and found them groundless. He added that while such a lobby would be an issue, but that he would not judge gay priests for their sexual orientation. “If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?”
From The Associated Press,
Pope Francis reached out to gays on Monday, saying he wouldn’t judge priests for their sexual orientation in a remarkably open and wide-ranging news conference as he returned from his first foreign trip. “If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?” Francis asked. While stressing Catholic social teaching that calls for homosexuals to be treated with dignity and not marginalized, Francis said it was something else entirely to conspire to use private information for blackmail or to exert pressure. Francis was responding to reports that a trusted aide was involved in an alleged gay tryst a decade ago. He said he investigated the allegations according to canon law and found nothing to back them up. But he took journalists to task for reporting on the matter, saying the allegations concerned matters of sin, not crimes like sexually abusing children.