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Politifact and Lawyers Agree North Carolina Gov Pat McCrory’s Claims About Anti-LGBT Law HB2 Are LIES.

Politifact and Lawyers Agree North Carolina Gov Pat McCrory's Claims About Anti-LGBT Law HB2 Are LIES.

North Carolina Governor Pat McCrory for the past week has accused civil rights groups and LGBT activists of  “distorting the truth,” and “smearing our state in an inaccurate way” against his anti-LGBT bill, HB2.

“I hope the media starts putting out more accurate information on the facts between a basic common sense bill which allows businesses to determine their own restroom and shower and locker room facilities, not government.

I frankly think some of the media has failed miserably in communicating the clear facts, especially the national media with the New York Times and the Washington Post and the Huffington Post and we’re trying to clarify that [sic] facts. I hope you put out the accurate information about the true facts of a common sense ordinance.”

McCrory also claimed HB2 has “not taken away any rights that currently existed in any city in North Carolina.” and that “every city and every corporation has the exact same discrimination policy this week as they had two weeks ago.”

Well the good folks at Politifact, the non-partisan Pulitzer Prize winning arm of the Tampa Bay Times and a few lauyers have taken took Gov. McCrory to task over his comments. And as it turns out. McCrory is not only a homophobic bigot. But also a blatant liar.

Politifact fact-checkers reported  on Wednesday that Pat McCrory is wrong and lying when he says North Carolina’s new LGBT law doesn’t take away existing rights.

“HB2 specifically says that local governments do not have the right to put [nondiscrimination] requirements on contractors,” Politifact says, adding, “it also took away a right that had previously been available to residents of any and every city in the state – the ability to file a state lawsuit over discriminatory firing.”

Discrimination attorney, Laura Noble, said, “I won’t refer to this as a ‘bathroom bill’ because that’s really not what it’s about.” Noble sais proving that North Carolina’s politicians played on peoples uneducated fears of the transgender community to disguise its true intentions and that the law is “about the elimination of discrimination protections” for the emtire LGBT community.

“This is a seismic issue,” Eric Doggett, a Raleigh, NC employment discrimination lawyer told Politifact. “It’s huge. It’s a massive loss of rights, and it happened with almost no debate.”

Politifact concludes HB2 “took away the rights of cities to put certain anti-discrimination requirements on private contractors, and it nullified existing policies like in Carrboro and Raleigh.

HB2 “takes away the right of everyone in North Carolina to file a state-level lawsuit alleging a discriminatory firing, according to attorneys who represent both employers and employees in those cases.

Politifact has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Pat McCrory is a liar and that HB2 is a Trojan horse designed to take away civil rights from all LGBT North Carolinians.

That is the “accurate information on the facts “.



PolitiFact Looks at AFA Hate Group Bryan Fischer’s Bulls**t, Rates Him “Pants On Fire” Liar

Bryan Fischer lunatic

PolitiFact.com the project operated by the Tampa Bay Times, in which reporters and editors from the Times and affiliated media outlets “fact-check statements by members of Congress, the White House, lobbyists and interest groups recently took on the  American Family Associations resident spokesdouche Bryan Fister Fischer after Fischer claimed that President Obama only mentioned the loss of HIV/AIDS researchers on the downed Malaysian Airlines flight for”politicizing” their deaths in order to legitimize gay relationships. Not surprisingly PolitiFact which assigns each a “Truth-O-Meter” rating from “True” for completely accurate statements to “Pants on Fire” (from the taunt “Liar, liar, pants on fire”) for false and ridiculous claims found Fischer’s polyester slacks FLAMING!

“Fischer stood by his claim in an interview with PunditFact, citing a report from UNAIDS that the rate of HIV is 19 times higher among men who have sex with men than the adult population. Also, he said that while his tweet isolated on men having sex with men, he made a somewhat broader argument on his radio show.

“We know how to stop the HIV/AIDS epidemic. Persuade men not to have sex with men,” he said on his radio show Focal Point. “Persuade prostitutes to go straight, and persuade people not to shoot up with drugs. If we can get everybody persuaded to do that, then the epidemic begins to diminish overnight.”

Dr. Stefan Baral, a Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health epidemiology professor and director of the Key Populations Program of the Center for Public Health and Human Rights, said Fischer’s post on Twitter reveals a misunderstanding about human nature and societal behavior.

“His recommendation is akin to making recommendations for people not to drive cars for fear of car accidents or riding a bike for fear of falling,” Baral said in an email. “In other words, this is a natural and healthy normal practice that in the context of an additional determinant induces risk. It would not be dissimilar from saying that there would be no cervical cancer if heterosexual people didn’t have sex.”

HIV/AIDS overview

There is no cure for AIDS or HIV, the virus that leads to AIDS and ravages the body’s immune system if untreated.

The statistics are staggering. About 35 million people have HIV in the world, including about 3.3 million children and 1 million Americans, according to the Foundation for AIDS Research, or amfAR. Among Americans, about 50,000 are newly infected each year, and 18 percent do not know they have the virus.

In 2012, 1.6 million people died from AIDS, which was a 30 percent drop from 2005, according to UNAIDS.

In the United States, gay men contract the virus at disproportionate rates to their share of the American population. In 2010, men who have sex with men comprised 78 percent of new HIV infections among men — 63 percent of all new infections — even though they made up just 4 percent of the male American population, according to the CDC.

Still, preventing men from having sex with men (if that were even feasible) will not end HIV/AIDS in the United States. About 20 percent of Americans infected with HIV in 2010 were women, mainly through heterosexual sex, according to the CDC.

HIV is carried through body fluids. The virus is passed when HIV-infected fluids enter the bloodstream of someone else, such as through contact with a cut or sore, sharing needles or syringes, or through the vagina, rectum, mouth, or tip of the penis.

In the United States, anal sex is the highest-risk behavior for spreading HIV, followed by vaginal sex, sex with multiple partners and sharing needles with someone infected with HIV.

Mother-to-child transmissions are not common in the United States thanks to widespread HIV testing of pregnant women and drugs that prevent the virus from affecting a child. Neither is getting the virus through blood transfusions and organ donations and transplants, which are intensely tested for HIV.

But what’s true for Americans is not true for other people in the world.

World picture

About 70 percent of all people infected with HIV live in sub-Saharan Africa, about 24 million people. This region is also home to the most children living with HIV whose infections originated during pregnancy, childbirth of consuming breast milk, according to AIDS.gov.

Globally, the dominant form of transmission is heterosexual sex, said Sophie Barton Knott, UNAIDS spokeswoman. Nearly half of people with HIV are female, and most were infected through heterosexual sex. Most of the 50.9 percent of men with HIV got it through heterosexual sex, too, she said.

The highest rates of AIDS among 15- to 24-year-olds is among women in many parts of the world, said Seth Faison, spokesman for The Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria. And in Eastern Europe, the highest transmission rates of AIDS are among people who inject drugs.

“Men who have sex with men are a high-risk group, but not the only one,” he said.

The bottom line?

Preventing men from having sex with men will not end AIDS.

Faison said the criminalization of same-sex activity actually can increase transmission rates. Being gay is a crime in at least 76 countries, and in those places, gay men are less likely to receive treatment, testing and prevention.

The CDC also says stigma and homophobia are likely one factor behind the rise in HIV infections among young gay men in the United States.

“In effect, efforts to ‘persuade men not to have sex with men’ is counterproductive,” Faison said. “It will not stop AIDS.”

Our ruling

Fischer said, “We know how to stop AIDS: persuade men not to have sex with men.”

Though men who have sex with men are at the highest risk of contracting HIV/AIDS in America, this is not a serious solution to ending a pandemic disease. Not in the United States, and certainly not worldwide.

Women, children, and men who don’t have sex with men are also at risk, and women make up about half of people worldwide who have HIV/AIDS.

Fischer’s claim is ridiculous. It rates Pants on Fire.”

Now, will someone actually be lighting his pants on fire? Because I would pay good cash money to see that.

Liar Liar Cross On Fire! – Politifact Fact Checks FRC’s Tony Perkins

Tony Perkins FRC KKK

Politifact has taken on anti-gay hate group leader Tony Perkins, f the Family Research Council, statements during his recent appearance CBS’ Face the Nation saying that wedding vendors have already been “forced” to serve same-sex couples.

“We’re already seeing bakers and florists and photographers forced to participate in same-sex marriages under the threat of law and in some cases even jail. I can’t think of anything that’s more un-American than that. … ”

Host Bob Schieffer responded: “How is it that bakers and florists are being forced to participate in this? I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying here.”   (Schieffer also doesn’t obviously understand that he should be doing  research so he can  fact check  Perkins live on air)

Perkins replied: “Well, we’re seeing in Washington state, Colorado, and some of the other states that have these anti-discrimination statutes that are being imposed, that when a same-sex couple comes and says, ‘I want you to take pictures of my wedding,’ or ‘I want you to bake a cake.’ And they say, ‘Look, my religious convictions will not allow me participate in that,’ they’re literally being sued by the government, not the individuals, and they’ve even been adjudicated in such places as New Mexico. So we’re going to see a loss of religious freedom. There is no question about it. It’s already happening.”

Luckily Politifact did do Bob Schieffer’s job and fact checked Perkins statements and  ripped  it to shreds:

We didn’t find cases where people were forced to participate against their will. However, if vendors refuse service, there are consequences. There are 21 states that forbid discrimination based on sexual orientation. Vendors who refuse service there could face legal actions and fines. The “jail” part of Perkins’ claim is an exaggeration. We couldn’t find any evidence that a vendor had been sent to jail or that any legal authority had threatened jail time. In some states, if a business owner loses an anti-discrimination case and refuses to comply with an order, the owner could face jail, but we found no evidence of that ever happening. One state, Colorado, specifically took action to remove the threat of jail.

Last night after Miss Perkins found out that Politifact had dared to expose her lies and tell the truth she fired off a pissy missive to her hate club trying to do damage control.

The media, in a desperate attempt to downplay the persecution Americans will face for opposing same-sex “marriage,” is resorting to lies from its own “fact-checkers.” They understand, as we do, that it’s harder to vilify someone when you see them suffering for living out their faith.  And for dozens of men and women, that suffering is taking place in the form of more than jail time. For them, the nightmare is already here in the form of thousands of dollars in fines, lawsuits, public humiliation, boycotts of their businesses, death threats, and vandalism of their property. This is the real intolerance. And one day, no amount of shoddy journalism will be able to hide  it.

Hmmmmm.  And who is it that wants special rights again ?