Last night Rachel Maddow sat down with Hillary Clinton and during her interview asked Hillary about both the Defense of Marriage Act and Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell two anti-gay bills that her husband then President Bill Clinton signed into law despite running on a “pro-LGBT platform his first term. two issues which have taken over “a decade of progressive activism to unwind.” And have harmed hundreds of thousands of gay and lesbian lives.
Asks Maddow in the clip below:
“Whether it was ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ or the Defense of Marriage Act or the – you know, tough on crime (ph) mandatory sentences. Former President Clinton is progressive on all those issues now… but the policies that he signed – for politically practical reasons – in the ’90s have taken – you know, the political miracle of Barack Obama’s election and a decade of progressive activism to unwind those things to get back to zero. …And so I know that you and President Clinton are different people, and I know that you’re not responsible for what he did as president. But is your approach to civil rights issues the same as his, or is it different? “
“Well, I want to say a word about the issues you mentioned, because my take on it is slightly different. On Defense of Marriage, I think what my husband believed – and there was certainly evidence to support it – is that there was enough political momentum to amend the Constitution of the United States of America, and that there had to be some way to stop that. And there wasn’t any rational argument – because I was in on some of those discussions, on both ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ and on DOMA, where both the president, his advisers and occasionally I would – you know, chime in and talk about, ‘you can’t be serious. You can’t be serious.’ But they were. And so, in a lot of ways, DOMA was a line that was drawn that was to prevent going further.
“It was a defensive action. The culture rapidly changed so that now what was totally anathema to political forces – they have ceded. They no longer are fighting, except on a local level and a rear-guard action. And with the U.S. Supreme Court decision, it’s settled. ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’ is something that – you know, Bill promised during the ‘92 campaign to let gays serve openly in the military. And it’s what he intended to do.”
I call total Bill-shit. The only “defensive move” was that to get Bill re-elected for a second term which he then blew. Or at least Monica did.
This excuse has been 10 years in the making with the help of former Clinton staffer and current Human Rights Campaign President Chad Griffin.
I wish Rachel would have asked her about Bill using his signing of both the anti-gay laws in his re-election campaign. And all the lives both DADT and DOMA harmed and the millions upon millions of tears, dollars and man-hours spent trying to undo them..
I will admit it. just don’t 100% trust Hillary Clinton. But unfortunately I am probably going to have to vote for her using the “lesser of two evils” voting strategy.
I tell you know though. If Hillary Clinton comes back and bites us in the ass if elected. You will see an “I told you so” of biblical proportions.
The Kentucky House and Senate voted by overwhelming margins Tuesday night to override Gov. Steve Beshear’s veto of the controversial “religious freedom” bill that would not only give religious organizations but also individuals the right to ignore any state or city anti-discrimination laws on the basis of “religious freedom”
The House’s 79-15 vote sent House Bill 279 to the Senate, which voted 32-6 to override the Governors VETO.
Kentucky Governor Steve Beshear released a statement saying he was disappointed with the override of the only bill he vetoed in the 2013 legislative session. “As I explained in my veto message, I have significant concerns that this bill will cause serious unintentional consequences that could threaten public safety, health care, and individuals’ civil rights.”
HB 279 says that government shall not infringe on any person’s sincerely held religious beliefs unless it can show with “clear and convincing evidence” some compelling governmental interest for doing so.
Gay-rights and human-rights groups led the opposition to the bill, warned that it could be used to challenge local laws in Louisville, Lexington, Covington and Vicco designed to protect not only gays and lesbians from discrimination but could also be used to override racial and anti-discrimination laws geared to protect women. And possibly result in the withholding of needed medical care or te withholding of abortions using religious beliefs as a justification for abuse.
Chris Hartman, director of the Fairness Campaign, noted that the bill passed as the U.S. Supreme Court hears arguments on same-sex marriage. “Today the commonwealth took a step backwards in protecting its residents at the same time the United States Supreme Court was hearing arguments that will advance the rights of Americans. It’s sad and it’s disheartening,” he said.
While the Kentucky Senate is Republican controlled, Kentucky’s House is overwhelming Democratic. House Speaker Greg Stumbo, D-Prestonsburg, cowardly declined to give a final tally for the vote to override Gov. Steve Beshear’s veto of House Bill 279
Speaking on Friday at a rally in one of the most conservative counties in Iowa Mitt Romney endorsed anti-gay, anti-woman, and anti-immigration right wing extremist Republican Senator Steve Kinh of Iowa’s 5th congressional district for re-election.
Romney said to the crowd: ‘I’m looking here at Steve King. He needs to be your congressman again. I want him as my partner in Washington!’
Rep. Steve King, was one of the few Republicans who did not strongly condemn Rep. Todd Akin who said that “victims of legitimate rape don’t get pregnant”. King also signaled why he didn’t — and that’s because he might actually agree with parts of Akin’s assertion . King told an Iowa reporter he’s never heard of a child getting pregnant from statutory rape or incest. “Well I just haven’t heard of that being a circumstance that’s been brought to me in any personal way,” King told KMEG-TV
King has also compared immigrants to dogs, saying the country should avoid importing lazy immigrants: “You get the pick of the litter and you got yourself a pretty good bird dog. Well, we’ve got the pick of every donor civilization on the planet.”
And as for the LGBT community in an interview with certified hate group Family Research Council, King said all gay people should be closeted so they are not discriminated against at work.
‘If you don’t project it, if you don’t advertise it, how would anyone know to discriminate against you. And that’s at the basis of this. So if people wear their sexuality on their sleeve and then they want to bring litigation against someone that they would point their finger at and say, you discriminate. This is the homosexual lobby taking it out on the rest of society and they are demanding affirmation for their lifestyle, that’s at the bottom of this.’
Within an hour of Romneys endorsement of King Obama’s spokeswoman Lis Smith released a statement slamming the endorsement.
Even though the Democratic National Committee has added a support of same-sex marriage plank to their 2012 political platform, some Democratic candidates up for election this year are still pandering to their extremist religious right base and denying support and/or proving that they themselves are Democrat bigots.
One such Democrat is Utah’s gubernatorial candidate Peter Cooke who launched a pre-emptive strike Monday, distancing himself from his party’s national platform, declaring his opposition to gay marriage, civil unions and abortion and vowing to represent “Utah values.” (Mormon)
“To me gay marriage is part of my religious belief and I support that and I respect other religious beliefs and I support and love those who are in the gay community,” Cooke said. “I think what needs to be done in Utah is for us to all live together, be compassionate. That’s what the Democratic Party is showing.”
Cooke a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which has actively opposed same-sex unions in California and elsewhere said his opposition to gay marriage stems from his faith said he opposes abortion except in cases of rape, incest or to save the life of the mother — the same position as the LDS church.
The question now is how will the Democratic National Committee respond to Cooke? Will they withhold election funds? Not back him? Chastise him? Or do nothing, which will prove that the same-sex-marriage plank is actually meaningless if Democratic candidates can ignore it and do what they please and still get the DNC’s backing and support.
Regardless of his party affiliation Peter Cooke has declared that LDS doctrine will define his political decision and has placed religion above the Constitution.
The DNC should hold back ALL support for him running for office as a Democrat.
Buzz Light-Newt in Florida
By the end of my second term, we will have the first permanent base on the moon and it will be American,” Gingrich said to applause. He said the development would include commercial and private efforts, and will make apparent, “we clearly have the capacity that Chinese and the Russians will never come anywhere close to us.” Gingrich also said he would push to develop propulsion technology that would get man to Mars. He emphasized that it doesn’t have to be expensive, exploration in partnership with private companies can lower the cost.
I’m telling you if hot air and bullshit were an effective rocket fuel Newt would have flames shooting out his ass sending him to infinity and beyond.
It seems that Minnesota Governor and potential presidential candidate Tim Pawlenty will leave no rock uncrawled under to reach his GOP Right Wing Extremist Christomaniac base.
Pawlenty recently appeared on the SLPC Hate Group recognized American Family Association’s radio program with Bryan Fischer pandering to it’s gay hating extremist.
For Pawlenty to appear on the AFA program with Fischer who in the past has said “we should impose the same sanctions on those who engage in homosexual behavior as we do on those who engage in intravenous drug abuse.” and that “gay sex is a form of domestic terrorism.” and then Pawlenty talking about his anti-gay agenda should be looked at the same as a political candidate appearing at a KKK rally and talking about “white power”.
Pawlenty is nothing more than hateful homophobe and should be taken to task for his hateful homophobic rhetoric, words, pandering, and associations