Raw Video: Police Use Tear Gas and Flash Bombs Against Occupy Oakland Protestors

Will Kohler

Will Kohler is a noted LGBT historian, writer, blogger and owner of Back2Stonewall.com. A longtime gay activist, Will fought on the front lines of the AIDS epidemic with ACT-UP and continues fighting today for LGBT acceptance and full equality. Will’s work has been referenced in notable media venues as MSNBC and BBC News, The Washington Post, The Advocate, The Daily Beast, Hollywood Reporter, Raw Story, and The Huffington Post

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12 Responses

  1. Sherman Boyson says:

    The reason the Oakland police got tough was that earlier, protestors were using paint balls against the police. Unlike most Occupy sites that demand non-violence, the Oakland site has included a lot of violence. They created their own internal security force, for example, and when an admittedly crazy and annoying homeless guy would not stop coming and bothering them, they beat the shit out of him. Vigilante justice may work, but it’s not okay.

    If protestors are going to assault police in the beginning of a protest, they shouldn’t be surprised to find the police getting tough at the end of the protest.

    • Will Kohler says:

      And your proof of that is? Please provide a reputable link.

      • Sherman Boyson says:

        Well, Will — how about reading the articles:
        http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/26/MNUB1LLTC9.DTL

        And note these comments from protestors:

        “Others pleaded with agitators to be peaceful and return to the march; some protesters tried to fight with police and were clubbed and kicked in return.”

        “Police forcibly dispersed the crowd with tear gas again about 9:30 p.m., when protesters began throwing objects at them. As protesters scattered, police closed off Broadway between 13th and 16th streets.
        Minutes later, protesters regrouped at the 15th Street entrance to the plaza. Protesters began throwing objects again. Police responded by firing more tear gas canisters.”

        ” ‘They didn’t have to force police into that situation,” said Helen Walker, 46, a nurse from Albany. “It was totally provoked, and if I could have, I would have stopped those idiots from throwing paint.'”

        • Will Kohler says:

          You seem to neglect to mention that the police started it by firing tea gas into the crowds two hours earlier. That is an attack. An unprovoked attack.

          • Sherman Boyson says:

            Nice try Will, but the paintballs were tossed early on, and the tear gas came late in the day.

            Meet your own challenge, Will — show me a link that says the tear gas preceded the paintballs.

            And I notice you no longer comment about the vigilante justice — can I assume you agree since you have the link you requested which shows what I said was true?

  2. Sherman Boyson says:

    And as for the vigilante justice:

    http://www.insidebayarea.com/top-stories/ci_19150648

  3. Sherman Boyson says:

    Let’s look at the timeline, Will:

    Officers in riot gear hemmed in protesters around 6 p.m. and attempted to arrest one person, as about 50 more surrounded them shouting, “Let him go, let him go.”
    Protesters threw turquoise and red paint at the riot officers. Some led the crowd in chanting, “This is why we call you pigs.”

    So, Will — paintballs are being tossed at 6pm.

    Police gave repeated warnings to protesters to disperse from the entrance to Frank Ogawa Plaza at 14th Street and Broadway before firing several tear gas canisters into the crowd at about 7:45 p.m.

    Tear gas comes at 7:45pm, Will. Want to tell me again how the tear gas was first?

  4. Will Kohler says:

    The main point is and always has been that whole melee situation could have been avoided. (That and the fact that the Constitution grants the right to everyone the right to protest)

    As for “vigilante justice” I’ve not done enough reading to comment on that at this point which is why I have not.

    • Sherman Boyson says:

      Will, your points might be good, but your inaccuracy undermines your credibility.

      Being angry and yelling untruths doesn’t convince anyone.

      • Will Kohler says:

        I am not yelling untruths. There are two sides to every story and the truth lies somewhere in the middle. After the Erika Williams incident you should know that.

        Now I am not heer to debate you on the subject. I posted what I had source material from. You replied and posted your own links.

        Finis

        • Sherman Boyson says:

          And you said my timeline was wrong, and I showed you were incorrect. But you don’t like that, do you?

          And bringing up EW? Yeah, nice staying on topic.

          The bottom line is that you said the attacks by the police were UNPROVOKED. You were wrong, but you won’t admit it.

          Now it’s finis.

  5. Bret says:

    I love hearing people rationalize police brutality and the trampling of the First Amendment. Attitudes like this are what has caused the problems we’re dealing with in the country at this time. Shameful.

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